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By Jim Weber

It sacrilegious to even think about another conference replacing the Big East Tournament at Madison Square Garden.

Held at MSG since 1983, the memories are endless: Georgetown’s Michael Graham swinging at Syracuse’s Andre Hawkins, Patrick Ewing’s back-to-back MVPs, Walter Berry’s swat of Pearl Washington, Ray Allen vs. Allen Iverson, Taliek Brown’s 35-footer, Gerry McNamara’s heroics, the six-overtime game and, most recently, UConn’s five games in five days tour.

Between these moments, the location and the massive coverage of the event by ESPN, the Big East Tournament blows every other conference tourney out of the water – even the ACC Tournament that has the most tradition and dates back to 1954.

But the idea off the ACC holding its own conference tournament at MSG was first floated by commissioner John Swofford last September. It was seen as spitting in the face of the Big East, which the ACC already raided for Virginia Tech, Miami (FL) and Boston College nearly a decade ago and has now pillaged for Pitt and Syracuse. While he’s only discussed adding Madison Square Garden to a rotation of hosts, there’s no way MSG would be want to be inconvenienced like that, making this an all-in proposition by the ACC.

While the Big East Tournament getting locked out of MSG might seem preposterous to some, we’ve seen time and time again in conference realignment that nothing is sacred. And I fully expect MSG to ditch the Big East for the ACC as soon as contractually possible.

Let’s look at this from the side of Madison Square Garden and the ACC to see why this is destined to happen.

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Madison Square Garden

With Syracuse and Pitt leaving the Big East for the ACC as early as the 2013-14 season and West Virginia bolting to the Big 12 for the upcoming football season, the Big East is going to be a shell of its former self. And if you hold the two new conferences side by side, there’s no comparison in terms of blue-blood programs, television draw and historical significance.

The Big East will still have some top basketball programs in Connecticut, Georgetown, Marquette, Louisville and the addition of Memphis, but it will also have Houston, SMU and UCF along with current cellar-dwellers DePaul, Rutgers and Providence. Woof! Connecticut and Georgetown are both squarely a cut below Duke, North Carolina and Syracuse in terms of national appeal and Louisville and Marquette are both geographically far away from the Big Apple, which makes it hard for fans to attend the event.

Meanwhile, the ACC will firmly re-establish itself as the premier basketball conference in the country by adding Syracuse and Pitt to the likes of Duke, North Carolina, Maryland, NC State and Virginia.

You don’t think MSG Chairman James Dolan and President and CEO Hank Ratner are drooling over the possibility of Duke vs. Maryland and Syracuse vs. North Carolina match-ups in the ACC semifinals once the Big East’s contract with the Garden expires in 2016? Between the passion of the fanbases, the number of alums from each in the tri-state area and the setting, a semifinal like that would have the feel of a Final Four rather than a conference tournament.

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ACC

We already know Swofford is interested in moving the ACC Tournament to the Big Apple; the question is whether the ACC athletic directors and coaches would sign off on this.

You can guarantee that Syracuse and Pitt would rather continue playing in Madison Square Garden instead of Greensboro, NC, Charlotte or Atlanta, so let’s get that out of the way. My guess is that Mike Krzyzewski would sign on as well, as he routinely plays games in the New York City area for exposure and recruiting purposes like his record-setting 903rd victory in November.

That’s three power schools on board.

I’d also guess that Maryland and Boston College would prefer to stay up North instead of making the trek South and always playing the conference tournament in the backyard of Duke and UNC.

You can probably count out North Carolina, NC State and Wake Forest from supporting the move since all three are used to staying in-state for the ACC tourney and getting plenty of fan support.

That leaves the X-Factors as Florida State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Miami (FL), Georgia Tech and Clemson.

While they are all geographically closer to North Carolina than New York, I think it’s safe to assume three of those schools would trade Greensboro or Charlotte for Madison Square Garden in a heartbeat.

It’s the undisputed Mecca of basketball located in the Big Apple. That makes for happy players, coaches and fans. It’s also the Mecca of college basketball recruiting, which makes for even happier coaches and their athletic directors.

As for Swofford? The addition of Syracuse and Pitt plus a move to MSG would also firmly place the ACC back atop college basketball and give the conference plenty of leverage in negotiating a blockbuster contract with ESPN. Let’s be honest: The ACC’s prestige in basketball has dropped and has been lapped by the Big East in recent years.

So it would be perfectly fitting for the ACC to replace the Big East at MSG as a sign of regaining its status as the country’s best basketball conference, relegating the new Big East to a symbolically second-tier location like the upcoming Barclays Center in Brooklyn.

So enjoy the next several Big East Tournaments while you can because, come 2016, I fully expect Madison Square Garden to kick the Big East to the curb in a New York minute.

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Jim Weber is the founder and president of LostLettermen.com. His column appears each Monday.

Swofford photo via Sam Sharpe/US Presswire.

8:23 AM on 3/5/2012
  • Dan

    Syracuse a cut above Connecticut on the national scene? Seriously? Do some research please. 3 championships to 1. See also Nike contracts if you need further clarity.

  • Tom

    Uconn is a notch below Syracuse??? Really?

  • Bryan

    I buy the Cuse > UConn thing.

  • Mark

    As other posters have pointed out, 3 championships to 1 establish UConn as a better program than Syracuse. The only teams that have more championship are UCLA (11), Kentucky (7), Indiana (5), North Carolina (5), and Duke (4). As for recent success, UConn (1999, 2004, and 2011), North Carolina (2005 and 2009), and Duke (2001 and 2010)are in a league of their own.

    If the ACC wants their tournament in New York, they had better invite UConn to the ACC. Syracuse doesn’t drum up enough NYC interest on their own to justify moving the tournament to NYC for all of these mostly southern schools in the ACC. Not only does UConn have a stronger program with more championships, they are closer to NYC (Storrs is 150 miles from NYC versus Syracuse at 250 miles from NYC). With UConn and Syracuse in the ACC, the powers that be in NYC are more likely to sign off on the ACC tourney at the Garden. Without UConn, moving the ACC tourney to NYC would just seem like the ACC is trying to dress up as the Big East for Halloween.

    • Chris

      You go to a Cuse-Uconn game in the garden and tell me who has more fans. It’s like a home game every time Cuse plays there.

      • Dave

        UConn not only outdraws Syracuse at the Garden, they outdraw St John’s . SJU had to change its ticket policies to keep it’s home games from becoming UConn home games.

        • Tony

          As a SJU fan, it pains me to say this but Syracuse fans ALWAYS outdraws UConn fans.

  • jj

    He was talking about national appeal, not championships. And judging by how much Orange routinely fills up MSG, he has a point. Duke UNC and SU would outdraw any Big East team in the Garden.

  • CUSE NATION.

    Man… you UConn kids are crybabies. You are an inconsistent team that didn’t get good until the 90s. Syracuse is a historically better program despite the number of national championships being fewer. Look at 20-win seasons and other factors outside of the one you have Cuse beat on.

    Also if you think that Michigan State isn’t in the top tier since the turn of this century you’re kidding yourselves.

    Face it MSG doesn’t want DePaul and these second tier rejects stinking up the joint. UConn can come to the ACC if invited and be relevant or stay with the joke of a league that is begging Temple to come back aboard as a full member. Your choice… or actually… the ACC’s choice… haha.

    • AM

      Sorry Cuse Nation – the Garden apparentlt does want the “second teir rejects”. The Big East MSG deal is being extended to 2026. See you in Greensboro.

  • Matt

    Over the last 20 years, Uconn has had the more successful program…that is for sure. But Syracuse nation extends further and much wider. Partly because of the size of the school, partly because of the communications school and partly because Syracuse is a very polarizing team.

    Some hate them and wil call them overrated year in and year out. Others love their fast paced style in a world of Big 10 old school Hickory High style.

    It also has something to do with Syracuse having a greater football tradition (albeit not of late). Uconn, no doubt is the center of the ball world as far as hoops success, but really, that is all they are known for.

    • Tony

      Agree, Cuse also has done better overall in hoops vs. UConn (overall wins, %, etc.). May not have the same number of NCAA championships but consistently good. To your point, you can go to the west coast and find Cuse fans everywhere.

  • Frank

    Let’s see. Which team is 30 – 1 in 2011-2012? Syracuse! Which team is the Big East Regular Season Champions for the seasons of 2010-2011 & 2011-2012? Syracuse! Which team has more alumni in the New York City area? Syracuse! Winning a NCAA Championship is only good for that team over a 6 game period. Which team beat UCONN twice this season even on their home court in front of ESPN Game Day? Syracuse! I rest my case.

  • Mark

    Here are some things to consider:
    1) The only reason Syracuse fans have more fans than UConn fans at the Garden is due to UConn’s greater recent success. UConn fans are spoiled (which I admit is lame). They think that it is a waste to spend your money on the Big East tournament when odds are high every year that you could be playing for a National Championship? (Granted, not this year.) Plus, it seems to me that UConn fans are more likely to leave the CT/NYC are upon graduation (UConn is very science heavy, and you don’t need to be in NYC to be a scientist – Cuse is heavy on broadcast journalism and the arts, which makes NYC an attractive location for grads)
    2) St. John’s has a lot of say with Madison Square Garden as it is one of their home courts. The only way the ACC will EVER get into MSG is if the Big East splits for some reason. If the ACC insists on their tourney being in NYC, then their only option will be to hold their tournament at the new arena in Brooklyn as it will be blocked from MSG.
    3) Most members of the ACC don’t even want the tournament in NYC. I imagine that only BC, Cuse, Pitt, and Maryland would want this for obvious geographical reasons. The ACC tourney SHOULD be in Washington DC (more central the the center of the conference) and no further north. Anyway, if playing in NYC meant that much to Cuse, then they shouldn’t have moved to the ACC (Big East will still be better in hoop than the ACC. UConn, Georgetown, Louisville, Villanova, Notre Dame, Marquette, Cincinnati, Temple, and Memphis trump Duke, North Carolina, Cuse, Pitt, Virginia, Maryland, and Florida State)
    4) Syracuse is having a great season, but you can’t crow about it yet. UConn is just not a good team this year (and they were without Jim Calhoun for much of it), so beating UConn this year doesn’t mean much. Congrats on the only win at Gampel you will ever have. However, it history is the great teacher, then I don’t expect Syracuse to win. The biggest choke teams in the NCAA tourney are Pitt and Cuse. Every time Pitt is penciled in as a Final Four team, they can’t make it past the Sweet Sixteen. As far as Cuse is concerned, most years they choke to a team like Vermont in the first or second round.
    5) The BCS is going away soon and you will be stuck playing teams like Miami, Clemson, and BC in hoop. As they say, be careful what you wish for – it just may come true.

  • CJ

    ACC is a better brand so comes down to if ADs and coaches sign off. The ACC needs a signature location so easily could see this happening.

  • AM

    This article was written a few days too early. NY Post reporting Big East and MSG just about done on a ten year extension. Looks like the Garden will be in use through 2026. Enjoy Greensboro!

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